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 Post subject: Re: SG Machine
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:45 pm 
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Bill Hanneman wrote:
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You also have to get a weight for the stone in air. and calculate accordingly.


Don't waste your time or money. It is easier, faster, cheaper, and not limited by size, if you don't have to weigh anything. Use Specific Density. :D :D


Bill - This looks like it will cost roughly zero. I have to have an accurate scale in any event, so all i need is some scrap wood, a cup some thread and a bottle cap.
When I have looked the cost of your relative density scale it was around $100.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:38 pm 
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Bill - This looks like it will cost roughly zero.

You are correct.
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I have to have an accurate scale in any event, ...

That is a different situation. Everyone should have a scale of some type to weigh things on, but one doesn't need a scale to measure relative density, if you know how. :D :D
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When I have looked the cost of your relative density scale it was around $100.

Where? In my book, I only tell people how to make their own Specific Gravity and Diamond Balance.

In 1975 the GIA adopted that instrument and taught it to their students, until they found it cut into the sale of the expensive balances they sold.

Today, my NEW Relative Density Balance is so simple and so cheap that one cannot make a profit by making and selling them, so I intend to give the plans to worthwhile individuals at the Tucson Show next month.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:30 pm 
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Bill Hanneman wrote:
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When I have looked the cost of your relative density scale it was around $100.

Where? In my book, I only tell people how to make their own Specific Gravity and Diamond Balance.

Dr. Hanneman, saw this website today, with a Hanneman SG balance for sale for $139 as a regularly offered item: http://www.mineralab.com/Hanneman/

Today, my NEW Relative Density Balance is so simple and so cheap that one cannot make a profit by making and selling them, so I intend to give the plans to worthwhile individuals at the Tucson Show next month.


Look forward to hopefully seeing you at Tucson next month!

-Tom


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:04 pm 
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So I just built this thing. It is a slight improvement on the bottlecap design, as the wire will lift up to allow you to put on the gem and then put it down into the water.
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Bill Hanneman wrote:
dchallener wrote:
Bill - This looks like it will cost roughly zero.

You are correct.
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I have to have an accurate scale in any event, ...

That is a different situation. Everyone should have a scale of some type to weigh things on, but one doesn't need a scale to measure relative density, if you know how. :D :D
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When I have looked the cost of your relative density scale it was around $100.

Where? In my book, I only tell people how to make their own Specific Gravity and Diamond Balance.

In 1975 the GIA adopted that instrument and taught it to their students, until they found it cut into the sale of the expensive balances they sold.

Today, my NEW Relative Density Balance is so simple and so cheap that one cannot make a profit by making and selling them, so I intend to give the plans to worthwhile individuals at the Tucson Show next month.

I hope to see you at Tucson - by the way - is there going to be a dinner?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:57 pm 
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Dr. Hanneman, saw this website today, with a Hanneman SG balance for sale for $139 as a regularly offered item: http://www.mineralab.com/Hanneman/

I never made or sold that instrument. That is an old design and made by Mineralab.
Today, my NEW Relative Density Balance is almost completely different in concept.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:22 pm 
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Or this....

http://www.gemologyonline.com/Forum/php ... ty#p184006


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:25 pm 
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Interesting point about using a balance that is legal. If you are going to use a balance for the purposes of trade in the UK it has to be certified by the Trading Standards Department. You commit a serious criminal offence otherwise. No real problem here, you just phone the Department, take your balance along and they will test it there and then. They then affix a sticker confirming its accuracy (not a bad service for free).


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:26 am 
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Hallo
now that the Tucson Show is running may i dare to ask if there are any clues regarding the "NEW Relative Density Balance" that can be given to someone being not there :cry:
thanks and a nice day for everyone
Gerd


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