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glhays · **Posted:** Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:09 pm

glhays wrote:

What I find sad is you wanting to believe or project these are experts.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink is all that comes to mind in watching your colleague of clips. If you lead a heard of horses to the water many may just drink the water and that is all you can hope for.
This is like me saying your experts are of the fox type, where the sly fox tells its pray to resist precaution, resist the call to protect itself, all the while hiding in its den getting the protections it so calls to be a bunch of baloney.
My experts are the ones that administered my shots and clearly defined the effectiveness of it not the media circus or Kirkland vitamin supplements. Like I said if 80% of the horses drink that's better than one stubborn mule that won't.

Precision Gem wrote:

I can only assume you didn't watch the video I posted. The "experts" on it were:

1. Bill Gates, maybe you have heard of him, big investor in Pfizer, BioNTech stock.
2. Dr. Anthony Fauci MD NIAID Director.
3. Dr. Rochelle Walensky MD. Director of the CDC
4. President Joe Biden.
5. Rachel Maddow MSNBC host.

A little extra Vitamin D3 won't hurt you. No one ever got a blood clot or myocarditis from it. But I don't think it should be mandated to take!

Although I should have resisted watching it, I did.
Like I said.... it is sad, and you let the gest of my post fly by. BG not an expert, JB not one neither or RM. Motivational that's all.
AF trying to lead a heard to water, RW trying provide a path to the water.
I remember as a kid getting measles, polio and boosters, chicken pox shots. Lined up in lines at school to get them, no choices then, parents trusted the doctors then. Far less tech then.

danielle · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:19 am

Hi ,

Here is a polemic of dogmas defended with more or less courtesy, which is the opposite of an honest science. On the part of demanding gemologists in their contributions to this forum, these statements are quite amazing. Everyone is free to live his life according to his certainties, but everyone remains responsible for that of others, whether he wants it or not. And ignore it is of the order of unintentional homicide. If you do not want to trust science, do training in the medical field as you did in gemology; And there, you can talk about it.

Barbra Voltaire, FGG · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:44 pm

Face it, there are zealots on both sides of this issue.
Are other people entitled to their own opinion even when you know you’re right?

This has been described as the "Zealot's Dilemma".
Do we have a moral imperative to inform others when they are wrong?

Think this through.

How do you know you’re right? Whether it’s politics, religion, Covid or general life perspective, how can you know that your way is the best way or only way?

Could it be possible that our best, well-intentioned advice and insight might turn out not only to be bad advice, but totally WRONG.

Yep, it's possible and in the case of this pandemic, might even be probable.

Let's give Covid a rest. Deal?

Anyone have a source for 2mm faceted hauyne?

glhays · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:58 pm

DEAL!
Will ask my gemmo better half on the hauyne.

justinkprim · **Posted:** Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:45 am

I've been stuck inside the safety wall of Thailand for the last two years and we finally decided to leave the country, so regardless of my fears about covid, I'm very excited to get back to America in a few weeks and see friends and family and then to get to Tucson and see who's there and what's going on.

Even if we don't do a GO dinner, I will be happy to run into anyone in this forum!

See you there.

danielle · **Posted:** Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:09 pm

Barbra Voltaire, FGG wrote:

Anyone have a source for 2mm faceted hauyne?

Hauyne 1.9mm
https://www.gemfrance.com/achat-hauyne- ... ction.html

Barbra Voltaire, FGG · **Posted:** Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm

Merci. That may work.

Lisa Elser · **Posted:** Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:22 pm

Precision Gem wrote:

{nonesense}[/quote]

Just because this part of the convo is closed here doesn't mean you can harass me in private messages.

Thanks

Lisa

Dioptase · **Joined:** Thu May 28, 2009 4:13 am **Posts:** 236

Well, it was a pretty good show, but also a giant covid cluster. Many people got it, myself included.

Lisa Elser · **Posted:** Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:51 am

Dioptase wrote:

Well, it was a pretty good show, but also a giant covid cluster. Many people got it, myself included.

I was horrified at the lack of masking, the parties, and the Insta photos of everyone in maskless groups. For lots of reasons I mostly did my work and got out and I didn't take a breath without a mask on.

Someone took her mask off during my talk, and refused to put it back on when I asked her to so I stopped talking and waited. Finally one of the organizers went back and told her to mask up. But FFS. I know this stuff and you want to learn it so if I've asked that the audience wear masks, wear the damn mask.

arglthesheep · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:20 am

Hi Barbra
shot me a message, we have some hauyn in stock.
BW
Nikolas

Barbra Voltaire, FGG wrote:

Face it, there are zealots on both sides of this issue.
Are other people entitled to their own opinion even when you know you’re right?

This has been described as the "Zealot's Dilemma".
Do we have a moral imperative to inform others when they are wrong?

Think this through.

How do you know you’re right? Whether it’s politics, religion, Covid or general life perspective, how can you know that your way is the best way or only way?

Could it be possible that our best, well-intentioned advice and insight might turn out not only to be bad advice, but totally WRONG.

Yep, it's possible and in the case of this pandemic, might even be probable.

Let's give Covid a rest. Deal?

Anyone have a source for 2mm faceted hauyne?

Precision Gem · **Posted:** Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:20 pm

Lisa Elser wrote:

Dioptase wrote:

Well, it was a pretty good show, but also a giant covid cluster. Many people got it, myself included.

I was horrified at the lack of masking, the parties, and the Insta photos of everyone in maskless groups. For lots of reasons I mostly did my work and got out and I didn't take a breath without a mask on.

Someone took her mask off during my talk, and refused to put it back on when I asked her to so I stopped talking and waited. Finally one of the organizers went back and told her to mask up. But FFS. I know this stuff and you want to learn it so if I've asked that the audience wear masks, wear the damn mask.

Gene, remember our agreement.
No more snide snipes.

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