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 Post subject: Eilat Stone
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:29 pm 
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:) hi, y'all!

wondering if anyone was familiar with 'Eliat Stone,' sometimes called 'King Solomon Stone,' and is the national stone for israel.

found a pendant yesterday on a website that sells cabochon jewelry and thought it was beautiful, at first glance, i thought it might be parrot wing jasper.

cannot find much info about eliat stone with the exception of material from mindat and the gemrocks website. it was mined at king solomon's copper mines near eliat, israel, which are no longer being mined? and read that most of the 'eliat stone' on the market today is imported by israel from other countries, including the united states, and resold on the market as eliat stone. ? wondering if anyone had any idea where the 'eliat stone' is mined in the us?? and if it is often "treated?"

it's a "rock composed of secondary copper minerals, including massive malachite, turquoise, azurite, chrysocolla, and others. it is often used as a turquoise simulant."
(sources: mindat.org and gemrocks)

beautiful material! looks like some of the chrysocolla material previously posted on the forum, from arizona-the ray mine?
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 Post subject: Re: Eilat Stone
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:48 pm 
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I have a chunk of it that my ex brought back from Israel around 1988. Sorry, no picture, it's in storage.

It is a mixture of colors and I'd think it would be hard to simulate turquoise on any piece of substantial dimensions. It's really dense and heavy - much heavier than turquoise.

I'd think it would more likely be coming from South America and other sources of chrysocolla, and similar minerals.

But what do I know? :?: syllables

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 Post subject: Re: Eilat Stone
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Eilat Stone was originally from Israel. It was promoted very heavily back in the 70s and 80s. But as Mindat points out: "Caveat emptor: The blue and green stones sold in tourist souvenir shops are generally imported from foreign copper mines, and are not really from Israel, which is of little importance to the tourists but has to be considered by serious mineral collectors."

Timna near Eilat was the first known location for copper smelting by the Egyptians. It's the location of a large geological, nature and history park (60 square KM). In this park are remains of an ancient copper mining industry, including workshops, furnaces, tunnels and shafts, shrines, mining camps and rock drawings. Most of these are dated to the 12-13th Century BC.

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That´s interesting - some of my mineral books (the cheaper ones I used to buy when I was a boy) say that Eilat-stone is a synonom for turquoise... Maybe they just wanted to state that the eilatstones in the trade are turquoise in most cases...

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8) thanks for your replies!!

that's very interesting information on the copper mining industry/park in timna, ROM!! will see if i can find other info on it. :)

also read that 'eliat stone' is sometimes called "impure (?) turquoise." :P ?

any idea whether or not 'eliat stone' is treated?

empress, if you decide to dig your eliat stone out of storage any time, please post a pic on the forum of it, would love to see it!! :)


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I found it - the piece is about 3 inches by 3 inches and a bit less than 1.5 inches high.


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8) many thanks for digging the eilat stone out of storage, empress!! that's a large piece!! darn, wish i could enlarge the pic!! the color of the blue does look like turquoise to me, what do you think? so, any plans for it now that you found it?? it would be beautiful cabbed, don't you agree?? :D


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Yes, GK, the color is like turquoise, but I doubt you could get a clean blue stone of any size out of it.

It's always been a paperweight and will probably stay that for some time. :lol:

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That stuff has been exported from Peru to Israel since the 70's, though it is getting much harder to find and more expensive than it used to be.

If you get a piece with only sky-blue color, I suggest you treat it with kid gloves. the malachite/atacamite and cuprite that are mixed in to varying degrees lend some integrity to the stone. The pure chrysocolla parts tend to crumble if you aren't gentile.


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NuevoMundo wrote:
The pure chrysocolla parts tend to crumble if you aren't gentile.


*raises eyebrow* :lol:

It's neat stuff. I'd like to get my hands on a cab of it some day.

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haha, lol... so that is why it always crumbles on me.

Ok, gentle. Freudian slip.


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:lol: :lol:

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I've been looking at eilat stones, I'm interested in buying some new jewelry, and I wasn't aware of the Israel/Peru origins... Any advice on how to tell online (I can ID quartz, and that's about it, so easy tips, please!)? Thank you!


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