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 Post subject: padparacha or not?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:46 am 
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too much reddish?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm 
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Depends who is judging the color.
Review this article
http://www.ruby-sapphire.com/padparadscha-sapphire.htm


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:20 am 
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In my (extremely meaningless) opinion, the first photo looks Pad-ish and the second less so. But I am not one of the Pad people.

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First pic, does look like a Pad. Second??? I've seen credible labs call that a Pad. But really, tough to judge by two pictures.

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Again, the determination is subjective.

Alan Hodgkinson would say the gem pictured above is far too saturated. "It must be a delicate hue".
I would agree.
He has been known to carry the perfect pad in his pocket at times.

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I think the Natural Sapphire Company has it right here:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:21 pm 
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I have a similar color as this, only a lot smaller(1ct. oval) and about a half million dollars cheaper. Richard Wise told me an even mix of pink and orange and a medium tone or lighter.


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Yep, we're on the same page here.


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Here's the certificate.


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So ORANGE sapphire and no pad...

In my opinion it is important to see ( like many or better most other gems) a padparadscha in real life.

Some are beautiful in incandescent light but not in daylight.

In the report they describe the color as pinkish orange but finally not as a padparadscha.
Padparadscha is in the color range pinkish orange - pinkorange - orangepink - orangy pink...

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Who is the report from?

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Not all labs use the term padparadscha.
GIA does not use the term as it is too subjective.


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Yeah, it's not a well-defined term in the trade in general (though an individual lab likely has consistent internal standards). So even if you get 'pad' or 'not pad' written out on a lab report that's just their opinion.

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Barbra Voltaire wrote:
Not all labs use the term padparadscha.
GIA does not use the term as it is too subjective.


But they use „alexandrite“ for color changing chrysoberyl with a greenish yellow to orange CC.... :roll:

Think the lab is GIC. Gemological Institute of Colombo. They use the term „Padparadscha“

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The GIA uses the term alexandrite (incorectly IMO) to refer to any color changing, shifting chrysoberyl.
I think they should use the same wisdom with "alexandrite" they do with padparadscha,


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Treated Pads?


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