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 Post subject: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:54 am 
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Hi all,

I was given some samples of the synthetic opals by a generous gentleman at one of the Denver Gem Shows. He gave me four kinds of synthetic opals, Gibson, Stellar, Aurora, and GMM. I tried to look for the snake skin of the unpolished Gibson rough but I don't have a microscope. I don't see any snakeskin on any of the synthetic opals. How do I identify each kind of synthetic opals? What are the indications?

I also bought some Brazilian opals from the same vendor. The Brazilian opals I have are semi-transparent. They have the play of colour that look more like aurora or big flashes, not patchy nor pinfire. I took one Brazilian opal to the free Gem ID at the show. The RI was right for opal. They tried to see if the stone can float in the saturated salt water which I think it is not a test for the opal. They have a microscope. They though it was a synthetic. I believe the opal is genuine since the vendor has his own opal mine. What are the characteristics for a Brazilian opal?

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:46 am 
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Saturated salt water is a test for amber, which is just a bit less dense than salt water. Opal will never get anywhere close to that low, and putting it in salt water is a bad idea in general, so I would not take their opinions too seriously if they thought that was a reasonable test to try.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:32 am 
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Thanks Stephen. I only know the saturated salt test is for amber. That's why I suspect their conclusion.


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:00 pm 
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Here is a little more information on Brazillian opal:
https://www.opalauctions.com/learn/a-z- ... nformation

Can you post pictures of the stones you received from the vendor?

The snakeskin appearance of a "synthetic" opal is directional. When viewed perpendicular to the snakeskin direction the color pattern looks linear.
Courtesy of geminterest.com:
Snakeskin:
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Linear cross view.
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A looming question remains. Are synthtic opals actually synthetic, or are they imitation?



Also, Nathan Renfro has recently compiled an article on opal, including an opal chart:
https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/summe ... opal-chart


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:26 am 
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Thanks Barbra. The information is really helpful and detailed. Here is my Brazilian opal shot under natural light and indoor lighting


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:33 am 
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The vendor mentioned that Aurora has 80% plastic. Stellar has 15% plastic and it can be worked with glass


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:35 am 
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GMM has 80% plastic


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:53 pm 
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Brazilian or not brazilian, I think your opal looks quite nice.


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Opal Questions
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Isi wrote:
Brazilian or not brazilian, I think your opal looks quite nice.


Thank you.


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