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 Post subject: Synthetic topaz
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:39 am 
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Hi, i would like to know if any of you heard about synthetic topaz? Is it only red one because of it's rarity and high cost? I'm sitting for my diploma exam and one of my teacher told me (after correction of an pre-exam) that synthetic topaz doesn't exist, Gem-A and G.I.A never mentioned it. I know that considerable size of blue internally flawless (irradiated) topaz can be found for cheap and that synthesis wouldn't be worth it. Any and every answer would be greatly apreciated.

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I don't have near the experience as other members, but my take is this:

As far as I know Synthetic Topaz doesn't exist and probably never will. There is a ton of Irradiated blue and coated (vapor deposition?) topaz on the market for cheap because Topaz is very plentiful, even in large sizes. I mean, I can go to Utah and literally collect pounds of facet-grade topaz in one weekend- for free! Some of the more desirable colors like the oranges and sherry-colored stones might be harder to come by (esp. large sizes) but colorless and extremely pale colors aren't too hard to find, and those are the ones treated. If I am wrong someone please correct me.

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Thank you for the answer and the welcoming.


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The Institute of Experimental Mineralogy of Chernologovka, Russia published a report in 2000 where they succeded in growing gemquality topaz in a hydrothermal process. It was done on experimental basis and I do not know if there is any production going on anylonger.


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Jan,

Is there an online copy of that report that we could read?


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It is some time since I saw this article and I could not find the original online but will keep searching for it.
In V. V. Bukanovs "Russian gemstones encyclopedia" there is a short notice on the synthesis of topaz carried out in 1976 wich is said not to be cost effective. Though he also mentiones that succesful production of imperial topaz had been carried out "reasonable from the commercial point of view." this was done with a hydrothermal method though no mention of when this was done. This book was published in 2006.


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Here it is: http://144.206.159.178/ft/566/63591/1078857.pdf
[pdfview]http://144.206.159.178/ft/566/63591/1078857.pdf[/pdfview]


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:27 am 
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maybe this article is of interest as well:

COMPOSITIONAL VARIATIONS IN SYNTHETIC TOPAZ
[pdfview]http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM57/AM57_169.pdf[/pdfview]


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Hey,

thanks a lot Jan and Goldberg! That is some pretty good information. I missed that post.

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here is a comercial jewelry site (in russian) http://tdsg.ru/page127.html that mentiones non-gemquality synthetic topaz as being something easily produced by a hydrothermal process. Even though they mention it as non-gemquality I do find it interresting that synthetic topaz is mentioned under these circumstances and I will not be surpriced when gemquality synthetic topaz turns up in the market.


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Thanks for the articles, very interesting reading. I have saved them in my research folder.

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