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 Post subject: I hope the experts help me
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:16 pm 
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Hello, I have two nice stones I want to buy. I want expert experts on the price. I would be happy to evaluate you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:31 am 
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If you think you can afford to buy both cluster and green stone not naming though, buy them or simply leave them.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:20 am 
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Thanks to Ahmad4 we will soon have seen the whole mineralogical species world from Yemen :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:00 am 
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Isi wrote:
Thanks to Ahmad4 we will soon have seen the whole mineralogical species world

You can travel to Yemen and check for yourself


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If you think you can afford to buy both cluster and green stone not naming though, buy them or simply leave them.

I did not understand your intention. Should I not buy before confirming the identity of the stone?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:24 am 
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The problem is, you ask for price and do not tell what it is for a mineral.

You want to buy some materials / minerals and you do not ask the seller what it is and you do not check prices before buying?

Okay, you ask here in GO for price but we do not know the reason.
You want to buy just one piece (the piece shown) or some kilograms?
What price you want to know? You are a newcomer in minerals and you want to sell it as wholesaler or you want to buy it just for fun because you start as a private collector of minerals? There are different prices.

You have serious contacts in Yemen?
Normally a person or a company trust in the source he / she is buying from.
Then there is no need for to ask for the price or seek a second opinion giving less background and give little information and do not name by name what is it about.

Or do you want to advertise, recommend and at the same time buy and sell what you show as a middleman?
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I did not understand your intention. Should I not buy before confirming the identity of the stone?

Ahmad4 wrote:
I want expert experts on the price.

Please confirm the identity of the stone; you only asked for the price.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:47 pm 
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steinfroilein wrote:
The problem is, you ask for price and do not tell what it is for a mineral.

You want to buy some materials / minerals and you do not ask the seller what it is and you do not check prices before buying?

Okay, you ask here in GO for price but we do not know the reason.
You want to buy just one piece (the piece shown) or some kilograms?
What price you want to know? You are a newcomer in minerals and you want to sell it as wholesaler or you want to buy it just for fun because you start as a private collector of minerals? There are different prices.

You have serious contacts in Yemen?
Normally a person or a company trust in the source he / she is buying from.
Then there is no need for to ask for the price or seek a second opinion giving less background and give little information and do not name by name what is it about.

Or do you want to advertise, recommend and at the same time buy and sell what you show as a middleman?
Ahmad4 wrote:
I did not understand your intention. Should I not buy before confirming the identity of the stone?

Ahmad4 wrote:
I want expert experts on the price.

Please confirm the identity of the stone; you only asked for the price.

I do not know the type of stone but the prospectors told me it is jade, but they are also very inexperienced. I relied on you in this forum because you are experts determine the quality through the pictures I have sent pictures samples in this forum Experts have identified the type through the images and now I am surprised that you are unable to know These are minerals I do not have experience, not prices, types and best rape of beautiful stones and I want to learn the experience of you I am happy in this forum I am with you and proud of the discussions that take place between us Thank you all for interacting with my subjects.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:02 pm 
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Ahmad,

To be realistic it is very difficult, and many times not possible, to identify a mineral just through pictures over the internet. We do try to make an educated guess, but it is at best only a guess. If we have samples in person, there are many of us here that have the training, experience, and tools to make positive identifications.

It is even more difficult to estimate values from pictures. Very small nuances in colors. qualities, and condition can have very large impacts on values whether we are talking about mineral specimens, or gem rough. Additionally, the intended market one is trying to position himself in will have very different business practices, expected volumes, and pricing.

I understand that you are working out of Yemen. I will assume that this makes doing things like sending out packages, getting training, and importing equipment difficult. I imagine that in the current Yemen political climate things are even more difficult.

I have been dealing in, and participating in mining gem minerals in various African Nations since the mid 1970s. Every week I recieve pictures of minerals from people in various parts of Africa asking for identification, value, and offers to sell. If the pictures look interesting, they normally send a sample out as the next step. If you are serious about getting into the mineral and gemstone business you will need to develop ways to get more precise information. This will likely mean solving the problem of sending samples out of the country. The truth is many countries have mineral wealth. Also, there is a market for almost every type, and quality of mineral. It is the business people who solve the business issues in their local market that are successful.

Gemology online can be a help to you in a casual way. But, you must work to solve the challenges in your local environment to bring minerals to the market. I suggest that solving a way to efficiently get samples out for testing and valuation would be a good first step.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:11 pm 
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Thank you master 1bwana1 for this kind and helpful talk. You work in this field before my mother gives birth to me. This is very wonderful. I wish you longevity


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:19 pm 
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, Ahmad4, but frankly it is a fool's game to spend money on something you have no understanding of. Unless it is money you can afford to loose.

The green crystals are not jade.
How do I know? Decades of experience, continued education and ongoing research.

As I mentioned on more than one occasion, one needs to devote time to learning and understanding any craft which they wish to master.

Start here:
http://www.bwsmigel.info/

A rare earth magnet would be handy. Read
https://www.gemstonemagnetism.com/index.html

A 10x loupe would enable you to look for fracture and cleavage types on the outside of an unknown and give you insight into the inclusion scene within it.

Learn some basic steps in identifying minerals generally:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/High_Scho ... f_Minerals


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:30 pm 
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Thank you so much Barbra Voltaire


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:37 pm 
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If you would like me to send you a 10X loupe and a little niobium magnet, it would be my pleasure.
Just PM me an address.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:04 pm 
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Thank you very much Lady Barbra Voltaire This is proof of your kindness and generosity I will try to secure the equipment if necessary I will ask you


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Great. One step at a time. :D


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:22 pm 
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Personally, I would not buy the first one, but i would buy the second if it were cheap enough. Because I would be curious as to what it was, and it is a pretty green.


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