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Author:  Ndaniel [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Fake certificate? Advice needed

Dear all

I am Nis, and just recently got so attracted to gem stone, specially Emerald
I've got good offer on emerald, along with certificate, however, after some intensive research on net, I feel awkward with this certificate

I have contacted seller, and he/she said maybe there is a mistake is certificate (WOW)

as per my attached certificate copy, shown on treatment section : ' Heated' I never heard of heated emerald, or may be because of my shallow knowledge that I haven't hear about this heating treatment?

Thank you for your advise

Nis

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Author:  Barbra Voltaire, FGG [ Sun May 07, 2017 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

It appears as though it was produced by
globalgemlab.org

They have a link on their site to verify reports issued by them.
It leads to their contact page:
http://www.globalgemlab.com/contact.html


Heated emerald? Why would someone do that?

Check on it and let us know.

I am also moving your post to a better category.

Author:  Ndaniel [ Sun May 07, 2017 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Thank you for approving

I have check http://www.globalgemslab.org, and indeed there is a section on it to check the certificate, appear that certificate attached on my previous post is valid, and issued by them.

I have gone furthermore, I check their website, their website was established on Jun 2016, and will require renewal on this june, contact address is using free email service (gmail), and their physical address is India

Now I am become more and more pesimistic with the authenticity of this certificate

Author:  Ndaniel [ Sun May 07, 2017 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thank you for approving

I have check through their website, and certificate is valid, made by GGL
Their website found on June 2016 (I believe their lab too) and require renewal on this june
Contact email is using free service (gmail)
With this new information, make me even more and more heart breaking regarding the authenticity of the gem and certificate

Nis

Author:  Ndaniel [ Sun May 07, 2017 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

And one thing, it is www.globalgemslab.org not www.globalgemlab.com, they add an 's' apparently they try to copycat other gems lab

Author:  Barbra Voltaire, FGG [ Sun May 07, 2017 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

You are correct.
I misread the URL.

The specs they list on the stone are correct.
Contact them and ask how they determined heat treatment.

Author:  Ndaniel [ Tue May 09, 2017 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

Hi Barbara, I have try to contact email as on website, and no reply, so many GGL Certified stone on the market, I guess, and fake GGL is there..

Author:  Nogir [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

Bonjour,
sorry for my english. It is not emerald at all, but cracked quartz filled with colored oiled-glue.
Regards

Author:  Barbra Voltaire, FGG [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

I guess they got the "heated" part right. :wink:

Author:  Ancientiques [ Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  1000% FAKE CERTIFICATE & stone Fake certificate? Advice need

Nogir wrote:
Bonjour,
sorry for my english. It is not emerald at all, but cracked quartz filled with colored oiled-glue.
Regards


This ''lab'' is just a joke made to deceive naive buyers without access to a real lab. Everything they sell is quartz.

One of their links was for this http://globalgemologicalsociety.com/?re ... yhol5jLab= which is actually a free domain on godaddy....I work with the lab of the National authority for customer protection of Romania and they have gemological lab. Their are 100% accurate and professional but they issue some A4 paper printed with a signature and a stamp without any picture or safety holder.

Author:  winstone [ Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

Maybe "heated" means that the 'emerald" is a synthetic hydrothermal stone? There are such stones used by jewellers to copy patron jewelry when they travel outside USA. Saves insurance coverage, losses, and allows patrons to have inexpensive bling. Winstone

Author:  Stephen Challener [ Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

Unlikely. Hydrothermal emeralds aren't dirt cheap, and the color and appearance are still wrong anyway.

Author:  Ndaniel [ Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1000% FAKE CERTIFICATE & stone Fake certificate? Advice

Ancientiques wrote:
Nogir wrote:
Bonjour,
sorry for my english. It is not emerald at all, but cracked quartz filled with colored oiled-glue.
Regards

Thank you, the color is just way too clear to become emerald?

This ''lab'' is just a joke made to deceive naive buyers without access to a real lab. Everything they sell is quartz.
Now I am 100% agree, this stone was advertised on ebay
One of their links was for this http://globalgemologicalsociety.com/?re ... yhol5jLab= which is actually a free domain on godaddy....I work with the lab of the National authority for customer protection of Romania and they have gemological lab. Their are 100% accurate and professional but they issue some A4 paper printed with a signature and a stamp without any picture or safety holder.

Author:  winstone [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fake certificate? Advice needed

Sorry, but I have no comments or advice on certificates outside U.S.A. !!!

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