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:cry: a "D" grading from BBB doesn't sound good at all.

that's a beautiful necklace, even though your fiance wants to sell it, william. and, welcome to the gemology online forum!!

out of curiosity, what does "declasse" clarity mean? for the black diamonds?? :oops:


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I had to double check and make sure I had posted the right link. If that was not clear then read the last four paragraphs of an article HERE


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I had to double check and make sure I had posted the right link. If that was not clear then read the last four paragraphs of an article HERE


YIKES! Talk about bad business practices. Sheesh!!!!

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The appraisal SAYS electronically tested...by fax? Geez.

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I think maybe you were looking at the "trust link" reviews. The BBB itself rated them a 'D' (as in below average) and listed several complaints of over-valuation.


Hi,
Yes, you are right, I missed that completely. Thanks, a "D" rating, that pretty much tells the story...

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:cry: a "D" grading from BBB doesn't sound good at all.

that's a beautiful necklace, even though your fiance wants to sell it, william. and, welcome to the gemology online forum!!

out of curiosity, what does "declasse" clarity mean? for the black diamonds?? :oops:


Hi
Thanks for the welcome. I don't know what declasse means, sorry...

William


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declasse: adj. 1. reduced or fallen in status, social position, class or rank; fallen from a high status or rank to a lower one.
2. of inferior grade, rank, status, or prestige.


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Hi William

Welcome to gemologyonline :smt006 again lol

i saw the appraisal , nice necklace but the price :shock: , if you do sell it tell the truth and show the certificate but state you are not comfortable with it , people can check it out themselves. i think being truthful will keep you in good ranking . You never know how much someone is wiling to pay for something , and thats it value -really :)


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thanks, ms. b, for sharing the definition of "declasse" when it comes to clarity/grading of diamonds. :D

i agree with dragonstek, william, you never know what someone is willing to pay for a piece of jewelry, and be honest and let the buyer know that you are not comfortable with the report. but, after reading the last 4 paragraphs from the link that RAW rocks provided, i would probably send the piece to a reputable appraiser, since the AIG sometimes does not physically evaluate client's merchandise. that's a double-:shock:!!


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Sorry, I was giving a general definition.
I've never heard clarity referred to as declasse. You'd have to call the AIG and ask them.
Pique, yes, declasse, no.


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:? ms. barbra,

i'm very confused about this report even more now. i googled to find out more info, not sure, but, "declasse" is used for colored stone grading, and not diamonds or black diamonds. ?


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I've never personally heard it used for any gem, colored or not.
But maybe I live in a bubble.


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I've run across the term declasse in reference to diamond clarity before and I've always assumed it simply meant opaque.

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Barbra Voltaire wrote:
I've never personally heard it used for any gem, colored or not.
But maybe I live in a bubble.


Do you know bubble boy? ;)

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Jason wrote:
Barbra Voltaire wrote:
I've never personally heard it used for any gem, colored or not.
But maybe I live in a bubble.


Do you know bubble boy? ;)


My bubble may be a little too declasse to mingle with celebs like Bubble Boy.

Truth be told, perhaps declasse is a misnomer used when pique is meant.
Possible?


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