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 Post subject: Rare Discovery-Carnelian Carving of Alexander the Great
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:30 pm 
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"This is an engraved gemstone carrying a portrait of Alexander the Great. The gemstone was found in the course of recent excavations at Tel Dor." - No'a Raban-Gerstel, University of Haifa

The gemstone carving, which is believed to be carnelian, is smaller than an inch by a quarter of an inch. It was excavated by a young lady, Megan Webb, who signed up with the University of Washington Field School's excavation program at Tel Dor, Israel, for extra credit. 8) The stone is believed to be 2,300-years-old and probably was set in a ring at one time.
here's the newspaper article of Megan's find with pictures of Megan, the gemstone, and the location where she discovered the gemstone:
http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/t ... /09/19-14/

and from Science Daily on the discovery of the stone:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 101147.htm

Megan should earn lots!! of extra credit for her amazing find!! :D


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sweet history and rocks together..can it get any better..my tow favorite things..love it

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what a luck :)
life time found :lol:
the most valuable thing i found maybe, was bronze colar , in roman vilage.
most of important archelologic founds,are find by chance.
she´s cute :twisted:


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Pedro, down boy :lol:
What a moment to remember, that's my kind of fossicking. :P

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8) mornin,' pedro,

do you have any pictures of the bronze collar you excavated in the roman village?? or of any of your finds or digs that you could share with us in this section?

lol, should we forewarn ms. megan that the two of you may run into each other at one of these excavation sites?? :wink:


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unfortunatly no.
the colar went to marked bag as usual to later be studied . with some luck :(
some colegues found earing. colar counts. already foud some to. nedles.
rings, some with stones.gold jewlery, fibulas. i don´t know traduce.coins.we find prety much anything.but your comon found is back hurt :lol:


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:?: after reading alberto's gemology project submission again on heat treatment, "heat treatment of precious stones," alberto mentions in his article that "carnelian found in india 2000 BC and in the tombs of egypt from 1300 BC, including king tut's treasures, were noted to have received heat treatment; and the process of heat treatment has not changed much."

i'm wondering if this carnelian gemstone carving received any heat treatment....i'm guessing it probably did. with most of the red carnelian (and sometimes the orange-colored carnelian), aren't they usually heat-treated??


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gingerkid wrote:
:?: after reading alberto's gemology project submission again on heat treatment, "heat treatment of precious stones," alberto mentions in his article that "carnelian found in india 2000 BC and in the tombs of egypt from 1300 BC, including king tut's treasures, were noted to have received heat treatment; and the process of heat treatment has not changed much."

i'm wondering if this carnelian gemstone carving received any heat treatment....i'm guessing it probably did. with most of the red carnelian (and sometimes the orange-colored carnelian), aren't they usually heat-treated??

its right that old carmenilian and agate stones found in india are treated,by heat or color dye to enhance appearence.i have some old beads believed to be from induc valley civilisation,though i never really got the carbon dating done,but i believe the source from whome i aquired them as he comes from excavation area.

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you should not buy archeological loot.recepting material of ilegal excavations will only increases ilegal excavations, cause there are market for pieces, the pieces will not be contextualized , studied and compared with other materiials for the same layer, who´s easier to give a date. this guys are destroing your own history.
at least i supose you bought from smugglers,if not i ask sory


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:D hi pedro!!

hope you are doing well!! wondering when you will complete your studies as a student in archeology?? :D


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Pedro wrote:
you should not buy archeological loot.recepting material of ilegal excavations will only increases ilegal excavations, cause there are market for pieces, the pieces will not be contextualized , studied and compared with other materiials for the same layer, who´s easier to give a date. this guys are destroing your own history.
at least i supose you bought from smugglers,if not i ask sory

i agree with u pedro,i dont usually buy,here in india,archeology department digs a site and then leaves it forever once they lift the samples,and local people start digging,exclusively looking for gold or silver coins and ornaments.
anyway,thanx for the suggestion.i will keep that in mind.

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hi ginger expect to finish in next january
day 4 ihave exam, day 4 probably i´m still drunk for day 1 :(
it´s to early
kashmir,very probably they studied the site.off course they took what they found, they will study it and will try to date it exchanging info from dirt layers and material already found with known cronology.and try to reconstruct the place acurately as possible many other things can be done.not all sites have interest to being musealized , so people cover the site again with dirt.
when ilegal excavation is done it´s simple someone call the police and the archeologist who´s in charge of the site.~
i don´t know archeology laws on india could be diferent. archeologist life is very complicated people don´t imagine.back hurts the smaller of our problems


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:D good luck on your exam, pedro, hope you ace it-sober!! :wink: day 4 is also my b-day. :shock:


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want to trade? you get the exam and i get birthday party.well maybe day 4 i will not have many will to drink something diferent than water.


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Hey double celebration day. :P
Good luck with the studies Pedro.

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