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 Post subject: Gemological expression of amazement
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:03 am 
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I would like to suggest and recommend the use of Sacré bleu whenever an exclamation of wonder, incredulity or adulation is needed. There are many advantages:
1. It is spiritually neutral, unlike the Australian Jaisus, the Indian Holy cow or just plain Geez.
2. It confers a sense of internationalism entirely suitable to this forum.
3. It's quiet and refined, with no upsetting overtones of scatology or sexual strangeness.
4. The association with gemstones is appropriate and obvious - blue sapphire, aquamarine, tanzanite and lapis spring immediately to mind.
5. French speaking members of the forum will be most comfortable with it's use, especially Canadians, all of whom are naturally bi-lingual, although they may prefer the local form Sacreh bleu.

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I dunno, quite partial to saving PHWOAR for the drop dead gorgeous. O:)

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Must be cos we never use Jaisus it's GEEZUS.
](*,) Chomping at the bit here, ugh why did you have to ask me to stick to the Queen's English?! :twisted:

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Sorry to say: It seems the phrase is not that religiously neutral. Wikipedia states the phrase has a christian origin, referring to the blue colour of the dress of Mary, mother of Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrebleu

What about taking the french sociologists division between sacred and profane and exclaim: "profane bleu" to religiously neutralize the exclamation?

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Sphene wrote:
Sorry to say: It seems the phrase is not that religiously neutral. Wikipedia states the phrase has a christian origin, referring to the blue colour of the dress of Mary, mother of Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrebleu

What about taking the french sociologists division between sacred and profane and exclaim: "profane bleu" to religiously neutralize the exclamation?


My understanding was that bleu was a substitute for Dieu - to make it more publicly acceptable.

I know for myself I've started using Cheezits and Sweet Cheeses to give myself a familiar exclamation that doesn't make my Xian friends wince.

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LOL, my mother used to say 'Oh sugar', not that that was the first word/phrase I ever spoke. :lol:

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Hmm, odd. As someone who grew up in Arizona, my first maybe 5-8 exclamations would all be replaced by B-Volt's (new nickname!) little censor :twisted:


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"M-Volt" here. :mrgreen:

If I would add my current (private: in public I'm usually extremely polite*) expression of amazement this thread would be forwarded directly to an exorcist (I'd suggest Father Amorth, from the Vatican, I'd like to meet him in person), instead of the "meandring footnotes", where it would fit better, maybe. :D

* But I had some trouble e.g. when I thought I was alone, and I wasn't :lol:

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"M-Volt" here. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:49 pm 
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My apologies to Mehoose for mis-spelling Geezus - I used a phonetic transcription. Profane blue has the connotation of profanity, of course, and we all know where that leads. I should perhaps re-phrase the first virtue as "relatively spiritually neutral". I've always associated blue with the Virgin Mary, and was not aware of the substitution of bleu in place of Dieu. These are, however, fine and subtle distinctions. Dieu might be a problem for Buddhist/Zen facetors. All in all, Sacré Bleu has much to commend it.


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hmm yes all very politically correct...I still prefer bugger :P


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My intention, although cast in a humorous form, was serious. It disturbs me when, particularly, crude expressions are used inappropriately. There is obviously a place for expletives in life, and bugger is certainly one I have been known to mutter under my breath. But when such language is used explicitly to express amazement or praise it raises my hackles, especially in a forum such as this. My hope was to indicate an alternative that could be seen as appropriate to our field of interest in as gentle a way as possible. I think this topic has run its course.


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No shit.

You were expecting a Kum Ba Yah convention?


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