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 Post subject: Anyone still make platform/hand piece machines?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:20 am 
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Does anyone know of any companies that still make the Raytech shaw style faceting machines?

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Imahashi in Japan. A company in Sri Lanka makes a clone of that machine.

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thomas.adamas wrote:
Imahashi in Japan. A company in Sri Lanka makes a clone of that machine.


Imahashi! That's the name, I couldn't remember. Thanks, Tom! :wink:


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Isn't Scott still (or again) making the Raytech-Shaw?
http://raytechshaw.com/index.html


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AlBalmer wrote:
Isn't Scott still (or again) making the Raytech-Shaw?
http://raytechshaw.com/index.html


Hi Al, thanks for responding. :) Just checked the website.

Anyone ever hear of a German company that makes platform style machines?


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Tygurrr-I wrote:
Anyone ever hear of a German company that makes platform style machines?


This faceting head has a removable quill:
https://hamag-maschinenbau.de/index.php ... _pos%5D=39

I do recall that a firm in Idar-Oberstein manufactured a very front heavy handpiece type faceting machine, but I have not seen or heard of this unit in several years. All German-made machines use masts now.

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Tygurrr-I wrote:
Anyone ever hear of a German company that makes platform style machines?

I have a handpiece from Alge Fertigungstechnik. As designed they apparently worked a little differently from a Raytech but they are essentially compatible with a Raytech base, just a bit long for cutting the girdles. I still haven't been able to cut a full stone with mine, though, because they take an unusual short dop (a set of which were very kindly provided by a generous German dealer!) and I don't have an appropriate transfer jig for it. Alge has been out of business for some time anyway.

There's also a Chinese handpiece made by Fable: http://www.gemtestinginstruments.com/sa ... chine.html Never seen one in person before though.

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Looks like the Fable handpiece goes with their faceting machine:

http://www.gemtestinginstruments.com/sa ... -220v.html

That height adjustment gizmo looks like a nightmare to me.

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Anyone ever see this before? I just found it doing a random Google search:


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Tygurrr-I wrote:
Anyone ever see this before? I just found it doing a random Google search:


Yes, the Edus Schlieftechnik was the machine I referred to. Front heavy handpiece.

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Yes, that's apparently the same company as ALGE. My handpiece looks very similar but not identical. A complete setup sold on eBay a few months back: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALGE-lapidary-f ... 7675.l2557

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I can't believe they are charge 998 Euros for that faceting mast/head from Hamag with no machine to go with it. I played with one a few weeks ago in Idar and it feels like junk. It just hangs there. I guess if you're used to German style jamb peg it seems cool but coming from American machines it just doesn't feel very nice and is definitely not very sophisticated.

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thomas.adamas wrote:
Tygurrr-I wrote:
Anyone ever see this before? I just found it doing a random Google search:


Yes, the Edus Schlieftechnik was the machine I referred to. Front heavy handpiece.


Wish there was a better photo of this thing.....can't quite make out the platen/ splash pan area. The crank part looks interesting. Does that move the "platform" closer or farther to the platen/ lap area?


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Stephen Challener wrote:
Yes, that's apparently the same company as ALGE. My handpiece looks very similar but not identical. A complete setup sold on eBay a few months back: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALGE-lapidary-f ... 7675.l2557


How do you like it?


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Tygurrr-I wrote:

Wish there was a better photo of this thing.....can't quite make out the platen/ splash pan area. The crank part looks interesting. Does that move the "platform" closer or farther to the platen/ lap area?

I believe this is part of preforming unit built in too the machine.

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