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 Post subject: Scorpion in Burmite
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:33 pm 
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We are pleased to have found a small but perfect scorpion in Burmese amber.

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 Post subject: Re: Scorpion in Burmite
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:53 pm 
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Astounding...what is the measurements of that scorpion?


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Veeeeery nice, Scott!! :D

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Exstremly rare, but what size is it ?

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The scorpion measures 8mm long and 6mm wide from claw to claw.

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For sale Scott?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:49 pm 
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Oooh, look at those thin pincers (pedipalps). They say that scorpions with small claws tend to be more venomous (since they don't need big ones)--he must've been quite the badass in his day.

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That would be a cool sample for XR microtomography...

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Tell me a little about Burmese amber.
Organics are not my strong suit.
How old is this stuff?


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Uh, as expected Tafforeau already scanned scorpions in amber...
http://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2 ... ynchrotron

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Barbra Voltaire wrote:
Tell me a little about Burmese amber.
Organics are not my strong suit.
How old is this stuff?


Burmese amber, or Burmite, is among the oldest of the ambers and dates from about 100 million years ago in the Cretaceous period. IT is also one of the hardest ambers. I'll have to find a referece but off the top of my head I think it's about 3 on the Mohs scale. Hard enough to facet and retain a nice polish. It also fluoresces brilliant blue under UV.

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 Post subject: Re: Scorpion in Burmite
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Maialetto your link goes to information on a pseudoscorpion, which is quite diffrent
to a scorpion, its not even in the same family or order', though it is in the same class along
with spiders mites & ticks.
pseudoscorpions look like a very small scorpion but with out a tail & no sting.
They are not too rare in amber i have one in Mexican amber.
A real scorpion in amber is exstremly rare the one posted looks like a juvenile.
Burmese amber as been unavailable for meny years, but it is now been mined again by a Canadian
company under licence said to be harder than other ambers, and so takes a high polish,
and as a good fluorescence.
( from Andrew Ross's book the natural time capsule)Recent dating of the amber bearing beds indicate it is late lower Cretaceous in age

Scott Hope You keep us informed about the Scorpion :D

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glad to have found this site, i didn't know amber exist in Myammar & Mexico :D What about the newly discovered blue amber from West Kalimantan of Indonesia? Is there any one by any chance has a sample containing some insect inclusions from this region? Would be interesting to see some pictures of them too


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Something special I noticed in my sample of burmite, which is an ancient conical earring, is that it shows an anisotropy in color.
Meaning that the color changes in transmitted light whether observed in one direction (classical honey yellow) or another (orangy pinkish cherry).
I wasn't sure this was a characteristic of burmite, until I found this on internet :

http://www.ambericawest.com/burmite.html

Has anybody noticed the same ?


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 Post subject: Re: Scorpion in Burmite
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:05 am 
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Red burmite from Upper burma! Huu kaung valley.

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